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12/14/2007

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Yogi

The one year we missed getting the flu shots for the kids (I was
getting mine free through work at the time, Leanne and kids through the
clinic) both got the flu bad twice. We'll never miss it again, I tell
ya, no matter how much they scream. This year, however, Naomi (4) only whined about it a little once she knew what we were doing, but neither her, nor Eli (2) made any fuss at all while getting it. Yay!

Caprica

[this is good] Cassandre is brilliant!
I agree with your entire post aboutthe imperativeof getting flu shots or--now, flu nasal spray. I want flu nasal spray next time!
Seriously, I've been getting them every year since the heart failure and spouse's company does it for free forhim and the kid so we are as covered as we can get.
May we all remain flu-free for the duration!

Venus

Vaccination = good. Getting sick = bad. Would that we could vaccinate against out-of-tune singing, hang-nails, George W. Bush and his symptoms, broken hearts, bad bosses, and lousy drivers. Can I put a vote in (are we voting?) for the Hep A/B vaccine, in Canada called Twinrix? I'm heading to Mexico soon (ola!) and have had two out of four shots. Expensive, but I think quite worth it since the effects of the Hep stuff can be pretty horrible.

gt

OK, since my illness is revisiting me again, I'm gonna get the shot first time this year...

navelgazer

oh, I'm so glad the nasal spray was quick and painless-- I kept waiting for something absolutely horrible to happen-- don't ask me why, I'm just wired in that twisted, dark way. hooray for clarity and brightness and no flu.and, p.s., i likee the new wee vox linkety thing. nifty.

Mark

Vaccination is the most serious victim of the pseudo-science movement. In England, the measles vaccination rate has fallen below 90%, at which point the incidence starts to rise - there are English children with serious health problems resulting from measles infections, and it's all due to internet crap, and well-meaning but misinformed parents - an example of a viral internet 'meme' linking up with an actual virus.

karen

Your kids are so brave! I wish mine would get their shots as easily. The flu shot goes up the nose, but there are all kinds of vaccines that still require a needle. For those I have to pretty much tie them down. (like my parents had to tieme down)

karen

The flu can be serious business, and with your health problems I'm very glad to hear that you guys are getting them too. Cassandre is a smart little cookie and I'm very pleased with the thinking she did to avoid something she didn't want to do - without trying to get out of it completely.

karen

We've all been vaccinated for Hep A/B too. For kids it is part of the regular recommended treatment, and he and I decided that with the way we like to travel, we should get it too.
I like your idea of being able to get vaccinated againt other things, like broken hearts and bad bosses, but I suspect that vaccine exists already - in our house it's called vodka. ;-)

karen


Good! and hurry up too because we are far enough into the season that it's harder to find a supermarket or pharmacy doing clinics- you may have to call your doctor.

karen

Well, I built it up that way because the whole time I was expecting something bad to happen - like there would be so much fluid in the vaccine they would feel like they were drowning. Now I think all vaccines should go up your nose.
I hate needles.

karen

This memewas happening even before the internet made it easy to spread nonsense. I remember years ago hearing from hippy moms that they didn't want to risk vaccines because they contain mercury (as a preservative) and mercury must be bad. And then when people came up with the theory that the MMR (measles, mumps rubella) vaccine might cause autism, it startica panic that we still see today. People who are concerned about that should read this.

navelgazer

no kidding! it's amazing, really.

Patty

I have never had a flu shot and neither has Annabelle. We are rarely sick. Annabelle has had fewer childhood illnesses of any kind than any child I have ever heard of. There are lots of reasons for that I know, but I believe that one of them is my stance on so called "preventive" medicine and emphasis on healthy eating. And not to be contrary (but I will), not all of the concern about the risks of vaccinations is nonsense spouted out by "hippy moms". Perhaps I should write about the horrible reaction AB had to the DPT shot given at 4 months which sent me researching the benefits and risks with a renewed sense of urgency and fear.

karen

I'm not saying that some kids don't have bad reactions, nor that those reactions aren't awful for both them and their parents. I'm saying that fundamentally vaccination is both good for us and for the public health.

Patty

...and perhaps I'm prone to taking this debate and the general tone of the discourse (generally, not so much in your post) all a little too personally because I have my doubts about how much "good" comes from certain types of so-called public health mandates. Every year I've faced being called or looked at like a radical fringe "hippy mom" who's out to take down the whole school with her "not immune" daughter, despite having pediatricians and doctors agree with my "conscientious objector" stance. (yes, that's what the form is called that you have to fill out for the school health officer if you're child does not have each and every "required" shot. )I tend to take a very skeptic approach to some of these things, especially when I weigh the benefits against the risks and remember back to how my baby girl went into seizures with a 106 degree fever after that DPT shot.

karen

Well we all have our own roads to hoe and it looks like in this case our paths diverge quite a bit. I'm going to say that we disagree on this issue and leave it at that.
:-)

karen

Er.
Rows to hoe + roads to follow = roads to hoe.
This mixed metaphor brought to you by Mondegreen, proud sponsor of the Special Olympics.

Patty

Are you calling me a "ho"?!?!! ;-)Well, we eventually had to find something we disagreed on, right?

karen

I suppose we did, and I'm betting it won't be the last time either.
But Patty,I would never call you a ho.
At least not ona blog.
To your face, maybe,
over cocktails and cigars
but NEVER on a blog
and alwaysfrom affection.

Mark

Ho Ho, Ho's!

Patty

speaking of cigars...those ones are still here and must be rescued or smoked soon. D. is still laughing about you saying at dinner that I was "orally fixated"!

Deborah

yes. we MUST have a girls night and smoke the cigars!and its ho ho ho ho's (must be included as a ho if my friends are!)

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